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主演:厄兰·约瑟夫森,苏珊·弗利特伍德,艾伦·埃德渥,古德·吉斯拉德提尔,斯文·沃尔特,瓦莱莉·迈蕾丝,菲利帕·弗伦岑,汤米·谢尔奎斯特

类型:电影地区:其它语言:其它年份:1986

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 剧情介绍

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  评论家亚历山大(厄兰·约瑟夫森 Erland Josephson 饰)在瑞典的家中庆祝自己的五十岁生日,年幼的小儿子刚做完咽喉手术不能发声。两人在静默中种下一株树苗期待它生出绿色的枝叶,然而就在当天晚上,电台广播了一则发射核导弹的消息,第三次世界大战即将爆发。绝望的亚历山大向上帝祈祷不要发生战争,甚至他愿意奉献自己的一切来阻止世界末日的来临。期待世界重生的亚历山大在心力交瘁的情况下,烧毁了自己的房子。在熊熊大火中,亚历山大被救护车送进了医院。小儿子来到岸边继续为他们共同栽种的树苗浇水,一切似乎又恢复了平静。
  苏联著名电影大师安德烈·塔科夫斯基生前执导的最后一部杰作《牺牲》,荣获1986年戛纳电影节天主教人道精神奖在内的四项大奖,并提名金棕榈奖最佳影片,于1988年荣获第41届英国电影和电视艺术学院奖最佳外语片。

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 长篇影评

 1 ) FIFF27丨DAY5《牺牲》:万物起始,就有了语言,你却沉默得像条鱼

第27届法罗岛电影节第5个放映日为大家带来主竞赛单元的《牺牲》,下面请看场刊影评人的评价了!

米米

永远“看不见”的希望,永远做不到的“牺牲”,永远都在等。

孟山

人总是这样,思考的太多,行动的太少,说不出口的太多,无力的行为太多,但是寄托于下一代就是可行的答案吗,这应该没有人可以回答。

dama.W

摄影构图画面完美,就是对故事本身不太有感觉,作为老塔的人生最后一部电影也算是一个完美的句号。

Andrea

装满千年往事的老屋终会浴火涅槃,枯树之下依然守着相信的少年,不变的是诗意。

一桶猫

极高水准的色彩运用和长镜头调度 尤其是结尾相当震撼 一如既往沉重、绝望、末世的气息 关于宗教、哲学、信念的思辨贯穿全片 首尾呼应的浇树也象征着希望 对于老塔来说是最完美的告别诗

Sanders03

消亡之人

房子最后烧得只剩几根黑漆漆的木头,虚弱地搭在空中,只等风一吹就倒了。它就好像那枚核弹发射之后整个人类文明苍白可怜的缩影。 付之一炬。到头来什么都抵不过一把火的。而这火总是人类自己放的。 放火多容易啊。哪有什么牺牲呢?不过是一个没胆子迎接明天的疯子自欺欺人自暴自弃的一场表演。塔可夫斯基的超验影像在以往总让我感到宽慰,但这次好像也只让我觉得是大梦一场。 最喜欢的只会是那些对人类罪状语无伦次的控诉,那些抽泣和呢喃。 因为我对当下的判断是:一切的救赎都是假的,只有痛苦是永垂不朽的真实。

快乐王子

牺牲后的新生,或许塔究极一生都是在呼唤爱和希望、信仰,他所做的一切不过是在期盼着这个世界能够更好。矛盾的地方在于一方面亚历山大甘愿牺牲自己的所有去换取往日的欢愉与和平,但他也无比清楚人类本身的存在就是一种暴力,扫荡了所有的自然之美,世界不过是一片荒芜。超现实的景象与梦境关联,或许所有的恐惧也仅仅是一场梦,但他还是要去做,而他唯一能做的就是将目光转移到天上祈求玛丽亚将所有人救赎,祈求为人类而殉身,祈求希望在燃烧的房子、滚滚的浓烟之后闪耀。最后孩子开口说话,土地、树、海、人类于此刻共存,或许塔依然希望自己去相信,也许这个世界会变好。

三色堇紫

安德烈·塔可夫斯基导演遗世之作,世界毁灭前的惊世预言,生命终结前的自我牺牲。轻盈到无法落泪的孤寂之痛,朦胧到无法穿透的虚幻梦境,残酷的黑白影像,写满了腐朽破败的荒凉景致,在如神交般的时刻相拥入眠,漂浮着的身躯和空荡荡的灵魂,一把火焚尽了过往岁月的残留痕迹,一切如醉梦般清醒。万物起始,就有了语言,我们在希望与失望中走向死亡,直到终点。

伊菲吉妮娅

塔式遗作!是困惑,是绝望,是恐惧,是祈祷,是牺牲,是献祭,是生死间的徘徊,是对生命理想的踟蹰;灰冷阴暗的基调,弥漫不散的末世气息,全程随时可能崩溃却又紧绷着的最后一根独弦,终于在结尾的大火中毁灭而后重生;爱与信念重回大地,希望之树必将生生不息!

FranzCamus

神学 宗教学 形而上学。我看不懂 但是我大受震撼!

#FIFF27#第5日的场刊将于稍后释出,请大家拭目以待了。

 2 ) 《牺牲》是老塔最差劲的电影

老塔刻画了亚历山大这一带有极强殉道意义的形象,整部电影有浓郁的西方宗教风格,在核战争的背景下,亚历山大向上帝祈祷,以自我牺牲的形式来渴求神的帮助。电影从一开始的《三圣贤之旅》至结尾带有新生意义的呼应,都带有浓烈的宗教符号,从核战争为分界线,前半部分是哲理与文明,后半部分是疯癫与混乱,自此人与人之间的关系不再和谐,人们开始抛弃部分和平生活中所漠视的伦理与秩序,世界成为压抑的颓废的荒原,仿佛瞬间跌落莽荒时代。

此时,和谐的婚姻成为抱怨的尴尬关系,文明法则被打破成为践踏着斑马线前进的“野蛮”,一个拥有高深哲理与厚重道德的无神论者转而向神祈祷渴望救赎,化身为一个耶稣式的人物,以一己之力背负整个世界的罪恶。乱世打破了人与人之间或者是人本身在一般时期难以发现的平衡与伪装,将一个个难题放到了所有人的面前。

一方面人们渴求理性与文明来给予自己选择与指引,亚历山大竭力地恢复以往的秩序与和谐,但当他看着这破败的树林时,一种反理性反文明的混乱让他感觉恶心,人类所在和平时期建筑的一切都在战争面前毫无抵抗力之力,人的思想在宏观的战争面前——尤其是核战争,那样无力与徒劳。

于是另一方面,人们在这种文明特征被隔离的情况下,开始追求原始的古老的文化传统,例如宗教,一个现代的代表文化的学者开始追向神的救赎。邮差是一个“信使”形象,在各大神话中都很常见,代表着神的启示,降临在尘世里的智者面前,指给他一条带有自我牺牲以解放世界的道路,邮差指示亚历山大拜访玛利亚并与她同房,也是最后在亚历山大燃烧房子给他拥抱的人,而玛利亚的形象就太明显了,这两个形象与家人相对,无论是战争前还是战争后都与家人群体保持着一定的距离与反差,这也是指代亚历山大的两个方面。

我很怀疑老塔在拍《牺牲》的时候是不是预言到这是自己的最后一部电影,似乎将自己之前所有精粹之处都糅合在一起,如《乡愁》的疯癫与自焚,《镜子》的现实与梦境的杂糅混合,《潜行者》的理性与信仰思考,《安德烈卢布廖夫》的自我救赎与悲悯世人。但在我看来,糅合得并不和谐,整部电影看起来充斥着混乱与过分的意识流,用一种宗教性的教条性的语言来刻画一种战争下人们的恐惧与失态,一种荒诞的意味充斥着从头到尾,太多无意义无根源的指向疯癫与信仰,强行地带入一种强势的宗教信仰主题,至少对于我这种无神论者来说,是难以接受以及无法理解的,在灾难面前,理性伦理无端地让步于信仰与神。所以我最喜欢的是女儿这一形象,她似乎是一切的旁观者,与所有的混乱疯癫隔绝,反而让我看到了安德烈卢布廖夫的影子,信仰不是非得与理性与冷静对立。

结尾在我看来也并非那么画龙点睛,这种前呼后应对于老塔应当信手拈来,只能说,这种极具预言性与轮回概念的开头让我一下子便能猜到结尾是小儿子日复一日地浇水,这个结尾远不如《乡愁》要震撼,像是那种千篇一律的劫后余生警醒意义,罪恶注定接上救赎,毁灭注定接上新生。

多说一句,我不太懂为什么很多人说老塔特别喜欢烧房子,我印象里也就烧了两次,而且《镜子》里完全只是衬托意义,如果看懂《镜子》精彩无比的叙事结构的话,应该就能知道那次烧房子只是一个毫不重要的环节,而《牺牲》里烧房子则带有一种极强的自我献祭以及兑现承诺意味。

总之,《牺牲》是老塔最差劲的一部电影,他还应该再拍长一点,我不理解亚历山大,无法理解这个不堪一击的世界,更无法理解拯救世界的成本如此之低,在我看来这部电影与《安德烈卢布廖夫》相反,一个是现代精英用宗教方式拯救世界,另一个是古典精英用创造客观艺术珍宝的方式来拯救自我,老塔构思了一个太精彩的有关救赎的故事,却没有把它讲好,至少对于我来说,是不满意的。

 3 ) 现实的呐喊,精神的拯救——牺牲

塔科夫斯基近乎绝望的电影 树 树可以是希望,正如电影开始时亚历山大所讲的故事一样,树没有了根却栽在那儿天天浇水,祈求它活过来从而带给人们新的希望和价值。但这终究是不可能的,树只能成为亚历山大希望的寄托,拯救不了亚历山大。树也可以是父亲形象的代表,这在许多电影里都是常见的象征手法,让人想起《雾中风景》最后的那棵大树。树的生命可能已经死去,但它的形象却还能长年不朽,电影最后亚历山大的儿子学着他的父亲去浇树,最后趟在树下,父亲的精神影响着他,就像身后的那棵大树,这棵树与电影刚开始的区别显然多了一层含义,除了希望外,还有父亲的精神或形象在里面,代表父亲给予小亚历山大的力量——电影就在这时说出了亚历山大的心声,也是塔科夫斯基的心声——给予他们希望与信心。 水气 不知道水在塔科夫斯基生活成长过程中起到了什么样的作用,塔科夫斯基的电影里透露了许多对水的意像的无意识体现。《伊万的童年》里潮湿的湿地,小伊万梦里下着大雨坐在苹果车上,雨后的海边马儿在吃着苹果;《飞向太空》里沼泽里水草舞动,配合了巴赫悠扬的音乐以及最后房间里下起的大雨,一个长镜头结束;《镜子》里的雨,水和牛奶的洗漱,还有潮湿的地面;《乡愁》里潮湿的沼泽地、河道,主人公的抑郁的情绪仿佛都寄托在这些湿气上,《牺牲》里潮湿的草地和主人公压抑的情绪和《乡愁》里非常相似,水或者湿气没有了前几部电影里的淋漓或悠扬的基调,而是令人透不过气的潮湿——堵气,是对周围世界忧心忡忡或绝望。正如中国的南方梅雨季节,天气潮湿把人长时间困在一个地方,引发人们的气候官能失调症,从而产生强烈的压抑情绪。而电影里的潮湿和昏暗的光线这些形象与压抑的情感溶合得再贴合不过了。 火 火是与水相对的一个意像。如果水是压抑、绝望或忧郁的无意识体现的话,那么火就是企图突破这种极度消极情绪,救赎的精神诉求的体现。《镜子》里的一场大火,《乡愁》里最后的自焚,都有这些意识在里面。《乡愁》的自焚作为救赎的意义更明显,这和《牺牲》最后的一场大火可以说都表达了一个相似的含义——精神上的拯救。亚历山大祈祷着上帝或者超自然的力量来拯救这个充满可怕危机和斗争的现实世界,亚历山大甚至相信了奥托的话,企图通过与他的仆人玛丽亚的结合来拯救这个现实世界。但是一觉醒来(这一觉使得他与玛丽亚的结合是梦境还是现实难以区分,但可以肯定的是亚历山大的精神世界因此发生了变化),顽固的现实世界还是在那儿,几近绝望的亚历山大最后采取了一场大火的方式来对这个世界做出无力的反抗和自我拯救。 玛丽亚 电影从开始到结束,经常穿插着以色列王朝拜圣母圣子的画作。这副画的宗教含义是耶稣基督的诞生,也就是耶稣基督救赎人类的开始。从这点来说,画作体现的还是救赎的含义,而亚历山大的仆人玛丽亚恰恰正是圣母的名字,尽管如此,亚历山大与玛丽亚的结合到底还是一场虚无,没有耶稣,没有任何的宗教力量或者亚历山大期待的圣灵的出现,残酷而可怕的现实世界还是在亚历山大第二天一觉醒来之后继续存在。在塔科夫斯基看来,可能宗教的救赎也像是一个苍白无力的梦,不能给人类以任何救赎的力量,甚至连给人类带来安抚都难。最后大火时,玛丽亚只能木然的站在一旁,看着疯疯颠颠的亚历山大。这世界到底怎么了,何去何从?悲伤绝望的亚历山大和塔科夫斯基都没能给出答案,我们只有继续去浇树,继续去寻找。 塔科夫斯基的电影叙述简单,但表意丰富,充满多意性,静静的看完可以让人感受其中的压抑、绝望和希望。

 4 ) 台词回顾

油画 --娟娟流水声 大海 海鸟 ---声音
一定是每次潮来 潮退 , 水留在弯岩里 逗留然后旋回着 在重力驱使下找寻
wait---- hope
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What dwarf?
Oh, you know who I mean!
That hunchback!
Eh? The one Nietzsche mentioned.
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76
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,998
And I've always felt as if...
as if the living I've done so far
hasn't actually been real life
but a long wait for it...
a long wait for something real,
something important!
What about you?
00:10:36,2
Yes, if that's what you mean.
00:10:38,
I just never knew you were
interested in that kind of problem.
00:10:
But I am! I most certainly am!
Unfortunately.
Sometimes I get
the most peculiar notions.
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persona??? 前面对 not real
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,272
For some reason, I started
feeling embarrassed on stage.
I was ashamed to impersonate someone
else, to play others' emotions.
But worst of all, I was ashamed
of being honest on stage.
It was a critic who first saw that.
But it wasn't sudden, not at all.
320
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,276
So you mean that an actor
may not keep his ego intact?

That he must lose his identity?
322
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,271
No, not quite.
What I mean is that an actor's
identity dissolves in his roles.
I didn't want my ego dissolved.
There was something in it
that struck me as sinful,
something feminine and weak.
327
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,594
Aha! Feminine!
So that's what's sinful!
328
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,270
I liked you as an actor, so you quit.
That's it!
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00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,268
But it's far too much!
Too much, Otto!

363
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,278
I know it's no sacrifice, but...

364
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,429
And why shouldn't it be?
Of course it's a sacrifice!

365
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,756
Every gift involves a sacrifice.

366
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,430
If not, what kind of gift
would it be?
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From about 1478 to 1482, Leonardo had his own studio in Florence. During this time he got an important commission to paint a church altarpiece, now known as the 'Adoration of the Three Kings'. It is still not done today! The work has figures with only the light and dark areas visible as outlines. The 'Adoration of the Three Kings' shows three kings worshiping the Christ child. Leonardo changed the usual way this scene is usually viewed in the Christian faith.
Three leaders of the Chinese Christian Church[3] cite an alternate proposal for the origin of one of the Magi. They state that many Chinese Christians believe at least one of the Magi came from China. They cite anecdotal evidence about Liu Shang, the chief astrologer during the Han dynasty in China at the time that Jesus was born. Liu Shang discovered a new star the Chinese called the "king star" - which was associated with the birth of a new king. The disappearance of Liu Shang from China's imperial court for two years shortly after this star was discovered, they interpret as perhaps traveling the Silk Road to Bethlehem.
英语??
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,316
Alexander!
I can't bear it any more!
Please, please!
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01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,310
I think I know, now.
We simply don't want
to depend on anyone.
When two people love each other,
they don't love in the same way.
One of them is strong,
the other, weaker.
And the weaker is always the one
who loves without reckoning...
without reservation.
[卡比利亚之夜].Nights.Of.Cabiria
----1:13 oh , lord ~`
war~~ the fear of death
从此 他安然与死神下棋
拿枪 杀谁? 孩子 风动的窗帘 一暗一明
裸体的女人 挺立的小乳房 在孩子的床 周围无目的地走动
我的镜头 如侯猎的豹子 慢慢走进 移动 平行移动
心是平静的 平静到极点
透过Adoration of the Three Kings 玻璃的 背影的走远 摄像机呢?
chance

Piero della Francesca 彼埃罗.德拉.夫朗彻斯卡 老头看的那本画册是谁的画?
again --Adoration of the Three King 映着大树 正面老头来
878
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:24,319
Anyway, I prefer
Piero della Francesca!

879
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,108
<i>As I understood Alexander's words,</i>
<i>he meant</i>
<i>that it is peculiar for a man</i>
<i>to change, of his own free will,</i>
<i>into a work of art.</i>
<i>Generally,</i>
<i>the result of all poetic striving</i>
<i>lies so far from its author</i>
<i>that one can hardly believe</i>
<i>that it is a man-made creation.</i>
<i>In the case of the actor, though,</i>
<i>the reverse is true.</i>
<i>The actor is, himself, his own</i>
<i>creation, his own work of art.</i>、
==persona 演员 actress acting drama--trauma
1:30 again 拿枪 从理疗盒 盒子中
prelude
-964
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,719
put on fresh underwear,
a new jacket, even a tie.
Then I sat down in the chair
to see what I'd made,
through her eyes, as it were.
I...
I sat there...
and looked out through the window.
I had prepared myself
to enjoy the sight.
Anyway, I looked out the window
and saw...
What did I see?
Where had all the beauty gone?

All that was natural.

It was so disgusting.

All that evidence of violence!
戈黛娃夫人(Lady Godiva,或称Godgifu, 约990年—1067年9月10日)是一名英格兰盎格鲁—萨克逊的贵族妇女,依据传说,她为了争取减免丈夫强加于 ... 究竟这个故事中的戈黛娃夫人是称为Godiva还是Godgifu(「gift of God」上帝的礼物)在历史上仍是未知数。 ...
Godiva (or Godgifu) (c. 990?–September 10, 1067) was an Anglo-Saxon noblewoman who, according to legend, rode naked through the streets of Coventry in England in order to gain a remission of the oppressive toll imposed by her husband on his tenants. The name "peeping Tom" for a voyeur comes from later versions of this legend in which a man named Tom watched her ride and was stricken blind.
2007/4/24
迷失于GODIVA
1:49 花瓶振动 后面什么神动
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,755
Save us, Maria!
But why?
You poor, poor man!
Why? No, not that way!
43 glasses 风铃一般
人行道 梦跑 again
1039
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:18,077
I c-c-can't!

1040
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:21,313
I can't!

1041
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,512
Drink this.

1042
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,392
No.

1043
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,272
There...

1044
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,275
It'll soon be over.

1045
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,911
What's frightened you so, Alexander?

1046
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,275
Mama!
裸舞的女人 谁 ? 鸡
victor
1076
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:33,395
The fact is, what I'm most tired of
is the lot of you.

1077
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,120
Tired of being your nursemaid.

1078
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,080
Your nursemaid and your warden.

1079
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,756
Tired of wiping your noses.
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japan
两次关的音乐??
一段音乐 笙箫 呜呜
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小孩在给japanese tree 浇水
10
00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,998
a monk named Ioann Kolov,
that he should water the tree
each day until it came to life.
Put a few stones there, will you?
Anyway, early every morning
Ioann filled a bucket
with water and went out.
He climbed up the mountain
and watered the withered tree
and in the evening
when darkness had fallen
he returned to the monastery.

18
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,998
He did this for three years.
And one fine day, he climbed
up the mountain and saw
that the whole tree
was covered with blossoms!
Say what you will, but a method,
a system, has its virtues.

22
00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:00,156
You know, sometimes I say to myself,
if every single day,
at exactly the same
stroke of the clock,
one were to perform
the same single act,
like a ritual,
unchanging, systematic,
every day at the same time,
the world would be changed.
Yes, something would change.
It would have to.
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1176
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,958
"In the beginning was the Word."

1177
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:35,753
Why is that, Papa?

1178
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:24,476
This film is dedicated
to my son Andriosha

1179
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:31,836
with hope and confidence
Andrei Tarkovsky
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00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,156
Au revoir!

138
00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,475
What?

139
00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,477
What are you mumbling about?

140
00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,353
"In the beginning was the Word."

141
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,476
But you are mute, mute as a fish.

142
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,159
A little roach! (smelt)
02:05:04 回车
2.11.28----17.22
Most of the film takes place inside or around a house that was specially built for the production. The climactic scene at the end of the film is a long tracking shot in which Alexander burns his house and his possessions. It was done in a single, six minute, fifty second take, often misstated as Tarkovsky's longest shot.[
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Sixtyish philosopher Alexander (Erland Josephson) lives in a beautiful house on an island off Sweden’s Baltic coast, with English wife Adelaide (Susan Fleetwood), teenage daughter Julia (Valerie Maitesse) and young son, known only as Gossen, or “Little Man” (Tommy Kjellvqist). It’s Alexander’s birthday, and he’s visited by eccentric bicycling postman Otto (Allan Erdawll) and smug doctor Viktor (Sven Wollter), who is “carrying on” with Adelaide. Out of the blue, a nuclear war is announced on TV - the telephones and electricity are cut off, and the air is filled with the deafening roar of passing jets. All looks bleak - but then Alexander fervently prays, asking God to avert the impending apocalypse, in return offering to turn his back on his home and family, and take a vow of silence. Next morning, he wakes to find that, somehow, the threat of annihilation has been lifted - and now it’s up to him to keep his side of the bargain...

The Sacrifice is like a compendium of all the ideas (faith, role of artist, power of nature, virtue of childhood) and images (love as levitation, a boy standing by a tree) from his previous six films. As usual, there’s a baffling rush of philosophical debate, stitched together with some of the most astonishing shots in all cinema. Watching this long film is an intermittently dazzling experience, but also somewhat unsatisfying. Just how much of what we’re watching is real, and how much is Alexander’s hallucination - we’re given clues along the way, such a bicycle being parked in a certain way, only to reappear in a slightly different place later on - is open to question. In Tarkovsky’s films, dreams are nothing if not cinematic. But piecing together the director’s “intention” seems to be missing the point.   费里尼的【Orchestra Rehearsal】是唯一没看完的,一群人唧唧刮刮地说话说得我头晕,流畅,太流畅了,而我亲近于涩而重的。
  还有塔可夫斯基,我连关于他的记录片都找来了,【The Genius, The Man, the Legend--Andrei Tarkovsky】瑞典人Michal Leszczylowski拍的,大致是表现塔如何拍【牺牲】,感觉比看【雕刻时光】强多了,塔是个很在意细节和感受的人,凳子怎么摆,窗帘往哪儿飘都特讲究,讲道理却不行,【鲁伯廖夫】DVD里有他的访谈录,他居然爬到一棵树上去讲艺术和人生的意义,我脑子里蹦出两个字:耍猴。【第七封印】和【鲁伯廖夫】一比,柏格曼有必要买块豆腐一头撞死,但【雕刻时光】和【魔灯】一比,可以拔根头发上吊的是塔可夫斯基。当然,这只是我胡说。
The camera work is slow and contains all the hallmarks of Tarkovsky and Nykvist. The film features a haunting soundtrack which has three distinct pieces that stand out: the passionate aria Erbarme dich from Johann Sebastian Bach's Mattheus Passion, soothing Japanese flute music, and eerie traditional chants from the Swedish forests (in the old days farm girls used to call home the livestock from their forest pastures in this way). The film also contains several long closeups of Leonardo da Vinci's Adoration of the Magi.

The film uses long takes more than Tarkovsky's previous films. The opening, post-credits shot (a tracking shot of Alexander, Little Man, and Otto talking and walking) lasts nine minutes and twenty-six seconds, and is the longest take in all of Tarkovsky's work.[citation needed] Shots lasting between six and eight minutes are commonplace in the film, and there are only 115 shots in the entire film.[citation needed]
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It was out of such ideas that I decided to make The Sacrifice. The sole means of returning to a normal relationship with life is to restore one's independence vis-a-vis the material things of life and consequently reaffirm one's spiritual essence. In this film I deal with one of the aspects of this struggle for anyone living in society: the Christian concept of self-sacrifice. If one has never known such a feeling, never experienced such a desire, then, as far as I am concerned, one ceased to be a man, one begins to revert to the animal condition and becomes a strange machine, an object to be experimented with by society and the state. On the other hand, if one acquires a moral autonomy, one may discover within oneself a capacity for self-sacrifice.
不需要 妻子的hysteric
When one is hungry, one goes to a shop and buys something to eat; but when one is truly depressed, in a kind of spiritual crisis. there Is nowhere to go, except to sexologists and psychoanalysts who have no understanding of what is going on inside one. They are voyeurs and chatterboxes, who console you, soothe you and cost you the earth. They are charlatans, but terribly fashionable charlatans.
信息之奴
In my films one often finds the theme of language, whether present or absent. The fact is that the power of speech which has been given us has an absolutely extraordinary influence. It can inspire us to great or evil actions. And yet, these days, it has lost its value. The world is jam packed with empty chatter. All that information of which we pretend to have such need - consider radio and television - all those permanent infinite debates to be found in newspapers, all that is empty and meaningless. We imagine that, to survive, man has to know all kinds of things which in fact he does not need in the slightest; it's a strictly useless kind of knowledge. We shall all die beneath the weight of this garrulous information. In reality, it is better to act than to speak. As for the words, the phrases, with which we communicate - and this applies to art - they ought to be divested of all trace of passion. It is in the nostalgia that we feel for the Olympian principle, for its coldness, its classical sobriety, that resides the magic, the secret, of the great metaphysical masterpieces.
回到你自己introverted rather than the reverse.
Obviously, the artist himself is a creature of passion, but he dilutes that passion in the forms that he creates. In any case, inserting one's own emotions in a work of art is always vulgar. That's why I am so attracted to Oriental art; or else Bach, who is an ideal representative of art, or Leonardo da Vinci. Though each man most be Capable of expressing himself that he must channel his self-expression does not imply having publicly to produce a book or a film. It is this human vanity which is so typical of the West and which is not to be found in the Orient whose philosophy demands that man withdraw into himself, that he be introverted rather than the reverse.
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I could see that he obviously was not very interested in lighting. To him, of primary importance were composition, camera movements, the literally moving image.
Close-ups are also strikingly rare in Tarkovskij's movies. He preferred to see the actors' movements at a distance, almost choreographed, and alway in the center of the frame.
We had special-effects people brought in from England as there was a requirement in place that the house burn down in eight minutes and ten seconds sharp. Otherwise the film cartridge would run out.
For an entire week this scene was meticulously rehearsed. We had decided to not shoot the scene under sunlit conditions, and so we were forced to get up at two o'clock in the morning, do a few test runs, and then to commence shooting the scene at a carefully selected moment just prior to sunrise.

Approximately half-way through the take, my assistant yells out, "Sven - the camera is losing speed! We got twenty..., now we're at sixteen frames per second! What shall we do?"


We received some additional funding through our Japanese co-producer, and in the end we all decided to give it another shot. Nothing is impossible, as Ingmar Bergman was fond of saying. It was his gang behind the camera here. The house was re-built!

Fortunately, it turned out just fantastic. As the smoke billowed forth from the house the sun shone right through it and generated some truly great shading on the ground. It was a lucky strike indeed that the sun appeared - entirely to our advantage, and Tarkovskij was exceedingly pleased when he saw the end result.
I also asked him why he never showed up in Rome. "I was too shy," he said, "Bergman and Fellini are way too big for me."
----------Sven Nykvist
On the Shooting of The Sacrifice

 5 ) (ZZ)中国电影思考:谁还需要塔可夫斯基?

编者按   北京国际电影节虽已落幕数周,但其展映的塔可夫斯基电影作品,以及北京观众对这些作品截然不同的反应,却值得细细玩味。日前已故导演吴天明的《百鸟朝凤》以制片人方励的“一跪”求得更多院线排片,影市的过度单一化引起了人们的警惕:我们的电影市场是否为了票房,过于容忍垃圾快餐?过于苛待诗意表达、个体探索和真诚拷问?过于压缩后者的生存和展示空间?仅仅因为后者的观众比前者的数量少吗?那么这种“少”的观众,是怎样的观众?为了这样的观众、这样的电影,建立专门的艺术院线是否已需列上日程?   冗长晦涩的大师?   电影导演塔可夫斯基在他某一天的日记中写道:“晚上我看了科克托的《奥菲斯归来》(电视)。大师都到哪去了?罗西里尼、科克托、雷诺阿、维果在哪里?大师们——他们的精神贫乏吗?诗歌到哪去了?钱,钱,钱,还有惧怕……费里尼害怕了,安东尼奥尼害怕了……无所畏惧的只有布列松。”他热爱布列松的《乡村牧师日记》、《少女穆谢特》,伯格曼的《冬之光》、《野草莓》、《假面》,还有黑泽明、卓别林,和沟口健二。他书写着“精神”、记忆与“诗”,而与他的“精神”、记忆与“诗”的语言相反的,是“钱”与“惧怕”。他说,“电影从来不是一种职业,而是一种道德行为”。   天哪,在“艺术无关道德”的言语逻辑中,在“电影工业”的资本逻辑中,在“极权社会”的惧怕逻辑中,塔可夫斯基简直是反艺术、反电影、反社会的典范。我的一个电影朋友在看完塔可夫斯基一生中的最后一个作品《牺牲》(1986年)后小声跟我说,“这也算大师吗?冗长晦涩的大师?”这个提问式的表达非常坦诚,正像那些中途就离场的人,忠实于自己的内心,选择承认心中神坛的溃散。   这已经不再是那个排着队购买西方文艺论丛的“八十年代”了,人们不再惊慌于那些未可知的精神深度,不再掩饰自身与“杀父娶母”的俄狄浦斯、弗洛伊德的隔膜。那个51000人手捧《存在与时间》精神极度贫乏的时代景观已消弭于参差多态的此刻世界。尽管于这片土地,参差多态的此刻是艰难的,但也有越来越多的人,从这不安的土地里长出自身的语言,选择忠于自心的真实,坦承一种物的躁动。在此刻,塔可夫斯基那里的物与精神的紧张对峙已渐次模糊。而“大师”,这个最初是尊称佛祖、敬称德高之僧人的名号,本就与实在界的众生拥有着现实的间距,无论落在哪个活人身上,都是可怖的神话。好在,塔可夫斯基已经逝去。这个名字,在他独有的时光与时间中,已承得起任何世代的不屑、不恭,甚或忽视。   精神与诗的单独者,在现实中相遇   塔可夫斯基,让那些偏执于精神与诗的单独者,在现实中相遇。他们数量不多,但也足够了。这里,我也没法掩饰我对《牺牲》的喜爱。这是一部让我通彻、清醒的片子。北京国际电影节非常规的密集放映让我有着生理性的困倦,怪异的是,塔可夫斯基的《镜子》是对我的一次叫醒,而《牺牲》让我全然醒来。我喜悦于坐在那些安静的、留下来的人群中间。大片林地,是最初的时间。风通过草地的声响,纯粹。火裂木质,脆响细索如神谕。六岁的小儿子躺在他们一起栽种的枯树下,望着天,问:“开始的时候就是语言,为什么呢,爸爸?”这是《创世记》的“太初有言”,这是约伯或者亚伯拉罕的献祭,也是塔可夫斯基留给这个充斥着核爆与战争的世界“最后的信”。他在“信”的结尾说:献给我的儿子,希望他拥有希望和信心。   在豆瓣电影《牺牲》的条目下,有3035人做了标记,其中约有2600人喜欢这个有着149分钟的电影。在1013条短评中,看见我的朋友围马说:“大师级闷片是用来催眠的。偶尔看部,足以自窥局限和无知。第一次看老塔最后一部作品《牺牲》,难以企及的有力道。深沉的镌刻诗化,将人类伤痛浣洗成孩童和永恒的初生。天地融于水火之间,生灭轮回始于人心。留着这一份遗言,足以回光返照。”而观看《牺牲》,之于围马,更私人的结果竟是,他在看电影的过程中有了一个神奇的触动,那就是下周要请他爸妈来京,带他们一起玩。他说,“这份告别信太有力量了。”他感到整个影院都在震动。   而更多震动人心的记录来自陌生人,那些字句标记着每一个真实的个体与塔可夫斯基《牺牲》相遇的那些令人震颤的时刻。通过阅读,我与他们凝结,彼此照见:   “那些美哪去了?自然的魅力哪去了?花园里留下的,只有被侵犯过后的痕迹。”这是主人公亚历山大在林地中的絮语,他把人类生活描述为“侵犯”。   “所有为生活所不必须的就是罪恶。这是对安逸的宣判。如果真是这样,那么我们全部的文明,由始至终就是建立在罪恶之上。我们达到一种不和谐,一种物质发展与精神发展的极不平衡…… 你明白,我们可怜的文化,或是说,我们的文明,它患病了。”塔可夫斯基留给世界的诊疗书在林地的风声中开散。   “烧完房子后,看着他被送进白色十字车自己爬出来,又进去,又出来,自己又进去,很是不忍。最后看到孩子安好,去淋树,能开声说话,总算还有希望。”这个不断从车里爬进爬出的场景,我也记忆深刻。揪心,再一次。   “《牺牲》像是一份礼物,同时也是一份祭品。”是的,也感到被馈赠。   “默祭:面对世界,应不发一言,以往祭生。”不发一言,此刻。   “好看得要疯了。……晦暗,光线被一点点抽走。天要黑了。天亮了。葫芦庙着火了。时间开始时是水。”知觉意识如此准确地抵达,想必是个细腻的姑娘吧。   “如果每天做同一件事,世界会悄悄地变化。”“不断地给一棵快要枯死的树浇水,这棵枯树必会重生。”这是信的力量,如同箴言。   “对于表达不可表达之物、之情不容置疑的精准和笃定,我确信这就是安德烈·塔可夫斯基永垂不朽的能耐。”不可表达之物,不可表达之情,在言说与不可言说之间。   “自然光摄影令人惊艳,而故事本身更像是一个慢速讲述的隐喻。高度弱化的情节似乎被美学特质所压制,有些困惑这是更接近还是更远离电影的本体呢?”这个问题本身的精神性就让人愉悦。   “镜头运动严肃圣洁得一塌糊涂,置身太初之境,场面调度形式感强得更像戏剧。屋子烧空后女人瘫在水洼边,顿时代入一种献祭的哀伤。马太受难曲。”严肃圣洁,对,就是这样。于今世,“严肃圣洁”,到底还有没有自身的位置?内心的庄严,因稀少而珍贵。   “水,既是生命也是死亡,或者其实它什么也不是,它只是一种密集,一种流动,一种宁静,一种最根本的期望。它是墓穴也是子宫,它是柔软,是睡,是安息本身。牺牲或献祭,能否让一切回到原初?能否让恐惧和荒唐熄灭,重归初诞时的宁静?无论如何,最后的光芒并不来自于太阳,而是粼粼波光,这就说明一切了。”塔可夫式跃动的句子,也在闪光。   “这是创造者的末日情节,也是哲学论文——尼采式的绝望,自由意志的沉沦(日本、澳洲都像是逃走和示弱),语言学转向。最惊人的还是他用这么高的强度坚持自己认为必要的艺术形式,神圣的戏剧感,就像结尾用椅子搭出的积木,以及大火。这是创造者的自由,是他给出的希望和安慰,像宗教和酒一样。”激动人心的揭示,如酒神宣谕。   “三博士来朝、约翰福音、核战。80年代末的患病导演将疾病的隐喻投射到世界战争的担忧……”宗教画,经文,人类共有的困境照见命运。   “镜头从(达芬奇画作)托举乳香的博士一路向上,略过圣婴和圣母,最终落在一棵树的树冠上,正与正片第一个镜头中亚历山大和他的儿子手植一棵枯树相连。伴随着镜头移动的,是巴赫最著名的作品《马太受难曲》中的女中音咏叹调《我的神,由于我所流的眼泪,请垂怜我》。通过展现这样一幅图景,影片的意味其实已经在隐约之间渐而明朗起来:《牺牲》所讲述的,其实是一个现代背景下的古老故事,一个视受难与救赎为一体两面的信仰寓言。”以言语描述镜头连接起的画作中的树冠与父子二人手植的枯树,还有巴赫的音乐,意义在这些言语的描述中再次降临。   这些由塔可夫斯基的《牺牲》带来的汇聚,拥有着精神的通路。这样的连接也近于诗。这次汇聚使我明白,对言语深度的偏执,对精神性的迷恋,虽稀见,却并不单独。在此刻世界,在资本的逻辑与惧怕的逻辑之外,总有一些人,正源源不断地,汇聚于塔可夫斯基的精神、记忆与诗的逻辑之中,像那些在影院中睡眠的人一样,安然于塔可夫斯基所创制的时间。他们在“索拉里斯星”上,彼此需要。 孟潇

 6 ) 完整影评:我的电影之Top.2!

老塔居然拍了个反战/反思现代文明片,也许和他晚年有关,人晚年总会想到更多,老塔心怀世界。

现代文明就是建立在杀戮与罪恶上的一栋房子,战争的阴魂不会散去,世世代代世界都是这样丑陋,现在只会比以前更加糟糕,文明的血腥原形毕露只需要等待,那时候人们就像微型房屋里的人一样束手无策——也许只有奇迹才能救世界,或者把世界的罪恶烧掉,虽然成为一棵枯树一般,也就是日本文化的所谓回归自然,去掉人那画蛇添足的改造。虽然是枯树,但只要有天真的小男孩去浇灌,也会开满鲜花。没有牺牲就没有获得。老塔说充满希望与信心,这固然不错,但是是对未来,在我看来还是充满了对当今世界的悲观。

那些超现实的战后画面很震撼,尤其是永恒的冬天,因为核战世界气温下降和人们在废墟中出逃,但是背景却用无比的寂静衬托恐慌的画面,各种塔可夫斯基长镜头达到的巅峰。主角变成巨人看到自己房子无比地小的幻觉,正如我们的世界在核战、超级大国面前是多么脆弱渺小。老塔对自然无言的描写依然那么美,把潜行者、飞向太空的风格发挥到了极致。

满分神作。

 短评

有时候重获希望只能将现有的一切付之一(二)炬。影片透露着绝望的窒息,片尾却是塔可夫斯基“把希望献给孩子”,像被他突然点醒一般

7分钟前
  • 米粒
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符号繁多,语言晦涩,但主题并不难懂,特别是当你对基督教的拯救和末世论有所了解的时候。我们可以把《乡愁》看作是彷徨和求索,而把《牺牲》看作是坚定地回答。这部电影完成半年之后,塔可夫斯基就去世了。

12分钟前
  • Xinyang
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只说我看懂的部分:回归童年,舍弃自我,展现神迹;用戏剧式极简表演解构复杂剧本;延树木伸展方向上摇与俯瞰大地和微缩房舍的对比镜头;由自言自语、思辨,直到放弃语言;标志性横摇中保持平衡构图,甚至成为半环形运镜;结尾长镜头和所有镜像的运用都太牛逼,远远超越其他导演。影调纯净,音效完美。

13分钟前
  • 蜉蝣
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其实老塔要说的话很简单,我们这个世界,不能更好么?

16分钟前
  • 胤祥
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@新华,画质太差,没有睡去是最大的胜利。全片笼罩着世界末日般的压抑。死亡与新生。塔可夫斯基生命的挽歌,天鹅的绝唱,仍然是一位艺术家对自身与世界发出的疑问。只有塔可夫斯基的电影才配得上巴赫的音乐,伯格曼还差点。

17分钟前
  • 把噗
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这是创造者的末日情节,也是哲学论文——尼采式的绝望,自由意志的沉沦(日本、澳洲都像是逃走和示弱),语言学转向。最惊人的还是他用这么高的强度坚持自己认为必要的艺术形式,神圣的戏剧感,就像结尾用椅子搭出的积木,和大火。这是创造者的自由,是他给出的希望和安慰,像宗教和酒一样。

18分钟前
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再看《牺牲》。死亡气息(完成此片后不久塔去世),宗教救赎隐喻(达芬奇画《贤士来朝》、玛利亚与羔羊)。戏剧色彩,母亲歇斯底里;突发暴力瞬间。用滤镜,压抑或漂白颜色,几近黑白。开篇九分多钟长镜头,全片115个镜头。声音果然很引人注意。用巴赫《马太受难曲》。在伯格曼所居法罗岛附近拍摄。

19分钟前
  • 黄小邪
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老塔遗作,1986戛纳评审团大奖。1.绝望,祈祷,信念,献祭,牺牲,希望。2.影调和色彩变换,灰暗阴冷的画面散发如临深渊的末世气息。3.微缩房舍同[乡愁],神迹展露(浮空圣交)似[潜行者]。4.老宅燃火的长镜惊为天人!5.结尾希望之树,想及[雾中风景]。6.由伯格曼班底资助拍摄。7.独白话唠后接戏剧化。(9.5/10)

20分钟前
  • 冰红深蓝
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“一棵孤单的树 / 连它的影子也会背弃它 // 除非有一个孩子每天提着一桶 / 比他本身还要重的水来 // 除非它生根于 / 泪水的播种期”——王家新《塔可夫斯基的树》

22分钟前
  • Février
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1986年戛纳评审团大奖,老塔的遗作。迷你房模似『乡愁』,浮空性爱同『潜行者』,屋子着火后的长镜头令人震撼,老塔在黑白和彩色之间频繁切换,阴暗房间中的众人寂静如画,浅谈着不合常规的往事,清冷的环境描写营造出了有如末世到来般的绝望。他是疯子,是真正的诗人。|结尾树升镜头与『伊万的童年』构成生命/创作循环。

26分钟前
  • 糖罐子.
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看完《伊万的童年》再看《牺牲》,一首一尾。在5K的Mac上看19G的蓝光版画质太好,加一星。“万物起始就有了语言,而你却沉默得像条鱼。”搜集事件的收藏家-邮差。

29分钟前
  • Eco
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亞歷山大比《鄉愁》裡的多米尼克還要自私。儘管電影的長鏡頭和場面調度力量十足,但是電影流於一個在末日為引子之下的精神自白過程。這讓人感到冗長和吃不消。自老塔被逐出蘇聯之後,兩部長片失去的似乎不僅僅是曾經賴于電影生存的母語。這樣的放逐只為老塔帶來虛假的自由和更多不必要的思考。

32分钟前
  • 熊仔俠
  • 还行

完全颠覆了对老塔的认知,前所未有的死亡/末日/恐惧三位一体的诡谲气息不断涌现,幻境的折磨与现实的灾难交织,却最终归于平静,在冲天的火光与属于东方的哲学思想里完成牺牲与新生,以语言的回归作为仪式般的神迹在绝望中给予世人最大的希望;预感到自己即将离开人世的老塔在这部遗作中把自己全部的能量迸发了出来,他就像是一个被人类抛弃的上帝,无比失望后依旧愿意将自己最后的爱给予世间,在喃喃自语中离开世界,电影之神最终“牺牲”了

36分钟前
  • 顗礼
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为了生命,他必须牺牲,那怕是选择死亡。为了希望,他必须绝望。亚力山大在死中才看到了生,就像那棵树苗,只有在大地的气味中才能触目天空的临在。而亚力山大那怕是这般绝望,却也是热泪盈眶的。

39分钟前
  • UrthónaD'Mors
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找到一个《牺牲》的新版本,字幕好多了,于是又看了一遍,终于理解了整个剧情。我愿意把中间那段核战争的情节理解成一场可怕的梦。仍然有缓缓移动的长镜头、若有若无的声源不明的声音,比前面几部片子少了一些诗意,多了一些舞台剧式的场面调度。与《乡愁》一样,这部片子充满了老塔的宗教情结和终极关怀。

44分钟前
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